Why does Does George W. Bush hate America?

Does practicing torture make the United States a “rogue regime”? According to George W. Bush, it does.

From a Bush speech in 2003:

The Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment, ratified by the United States and more than 130 other countries since 1984, forbids governments from deliberately inflicting severe physical or mental pain or suffering on those within their custody or control. Yet torture continues to be practiced around the world by rogue regimes whose cruel methods match their determination to crush the human spirit.

As Andrew Sullivan points out, in the same speech he demands his own prosecution, by an international tribunal if necessary:

I call on all governments to join with the United States and the community of law-abiding nations in prohibiting, investigating, and prosecuting all acts of torture.

In another speech, Bush called himself a war criminal.

the people who mistreat the prisoners will be treated as war criminals

Not only is Bush anti-American, he suffers from Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Must be wunna them libruls.

Author: Mark Kleiman

Professor of Public Policy at the NYU Marron Institute for Urban Management and editor of the Journal of Drug Policy Analysis. Teaches about the methods of policy analysis about drug abuse control and crime control policy, working out the implications of two principles: that swift and certain sanctions don't have to be severe to be effective, and that well-designed threats usually don't have to be carried out. Books: Drugs and Drug Policy: What Everyone Needs to Know (with Jonathan Caulkins and Angela Hawken) When Brute Force Fails: How to Have Less Crime and Less Punishment (Princeton, 2009; named one of the "books of the year" by The Economist Against Excess: Drug Policy for Results (Basic, 1993) Marijuana: Costs of Abuse, Costs of Control (Greenwood, 1989) UCLA Homepage Curriculum Vitae Contact: Markarkleiman-at-gmail.com

12 thoughts on “Why does Does George W. Bush hate America?”

  1. I think the shrub can be forgiven for thinking that he is above any law. He has been flaunting all the laws of decency and most of the laws of the land for these many years and is still president.
    We sat still for Bill Clinton being impeached for maybe getting a blow job in the oval office, but mainly for being able to read and write and reason. We are a nation of sheep, and not very attractive ones at that.

  2. In Texas, they'd say: he's talkin' outa both sides of his mouth. They teach that in the schools there. and like the typical hypocrite, the beady eyed, narrow minded, mealy mouthed, four flusher has made a career of accusing others of his own faults and posing every issue or problem as its opposite and naming his plans as the solution even though they usually make things worse for everyone except the chosen few who profit hugely. Remember the Clean Air Act?

  3. Thanks, Mark, for this post. It has to be said again and again and again, in every possible forum and every possible way that we are being ruled by a ROGUE administration that can accept no barriers to the actions that they choose to take. BDS, indeed. Nothing about our country is sacred to them, not the Constitution, or even the concept of living within a system of laws. That's alright for us "little people" but not for these high and mighty dudes.
    How could ANYONE in their right mind could condone ANY torture, let alone systematic by governments of basically anyone, without even the notion of guilt or innocence? Why was the Bush administration's attempt to rewrite Geneva even given the time of day in the Senate? What does this say about the country we live in, that not even in the Senate will this proposal be reflexively struck down? What does it say when there are serious discussions in the mainstream media about whether waterboarding is acceptable as a technique to extract information? Has everyone gone mad? How could it be that so quickly we are finding ourselves in a Dark Age of superstition and torture and fear and xenophobia and most of all, self-justification of the most brutal sorts of human behavior?
    Yes, of course Bush is guilty of war crimes, war crimes of the most heinous sort. He has said so himself, pridefully and laughingly. He defines the term 'sociopath,' and yet, he continues to hold office. And he continues to be taken seriously by our elected Congress. Never in my life would I have believed we could so quickly have come to such a pass.
    Thanks, Mark, for this post. It has to be said again and again and again, in every possible forum and every possible way that we are being ruled by a ROGUE administration that can accept no barriers to the actions that they choose to take. BDS, indeed. Nothing about our country is sacred to them, not the Constitution, or even the concept of living within a system of laws. That's alright for us "little people" but not for these high and mighty dudes.
    How could ANYONE in their right mind could condone ANY torture, let alone systematic by governments of basically anyone, without even the notion of guilt or innocence? Why was the Bush administration's attempt to rewrite Geneva even given the time of day in the Senate? What does this say about the country we live in, that not even in the Senate will this proposal be reflexively struck down? What does it say when there are serious discussions in the mainstream media about whether waterboarding is acceptable as a technique to extract information? Has everyone gone mad? How could it be that so quickly we are finding ourselves in a Dark Age of superstition and torture and fear and xenophobia and most of all, self-justification of the most brutal sorts of human behavior?
    Yes, of course Bush is guilty of war crimes, war crimes of the most heinous sort. He has said so himself, pridefully and laughingly. He defines the term 'sociopath,' and yet, he continues to hold office. And he continues to be taken seriously by our elected Congress. Never in my life would I have believed we could so quickly have come to such a pass.
    'Torture' has lost its meaning to too many Americans. They hear that America is torturing people and just change the channel to the weather report. Ho hum. This country is in a very bad way, and a change in office-holders would only be a start. There is also a sickness afoot in the land, because to view torture done in one's own name as merely some news item of little interest demonstrates that we have lost all of our national identity and idealism.
    Yes, we need to change the balance of power in the Congress, but we need also to engage our fellow citizens: those who can ignore the horrific nature of our nation's actions against human beings, and who can dismiss the lack of due process as being of trivial import, are every bit as dangerous as our rogue President, because they are the ones who will allow such abominations to be done in our name, again and again.

  4. Many apologies for kabobbled post, immediately above. I do not know what happened in transit to so mangle it….
    To try once (and only once) more:
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    Thanks, Mark, for this post. It has to be said again and again and again, in every possible forum and every possible way that we are being ruled by a ROGUE administration that can accept no barriers to the actions that they choose to take. BDS, indeed. Nothing about our country is sacred to them, not the Constitution, or even the concept of living within a system of laws. That's alright for us "little people" but not for these high and mighty dudes.
    How could ANYONE in their right mind could condone ANY torture, let alone systematic by governments of basically anyone, without even the notion of guilt or innocence? Why was the Bush administration's attempt to rewrite Geneva even given the time of day in the Senate? What does this say about the country we live in, that not even in the Senate will this proposal be reflexively struck down? What does it say when there are serious discussions in the mainstream media about whether waterboarding is acceptable as a technique to extract information? Has everyone gone mad? How could it be that so quickly we are finding ourselves in a Dark Age of superstition and torture and fear and xenophobia and most of all, self-justification of the most brutal sorts of human behavior?
    Yes, of course Bush is guilty of war crimes, war crimes of the most heinous sort. He has said so himself, pridefully and laughingly. He defines the term 'sociopath,' and yet, he continues to hold office. And he continues to be taken seriously by our elected Congress. Never in my life would I have believed we could so quickly have come to such a pass.
    'Torture' has lost its meaning to too many Americans. They hear that America is torturing people and just change the channel to the weather report. Ho hum. This country is in a very bad way, and a change in office-holders would only be a start. There is also a sickness afoot in the land, because to view torture done in one's own name as merely some news item of little interest demonstrates that we have lost all of our national identity and idealism.
    Yes, we need to change the balance of power in the Congress, but we need also to engage our fellow citizens: those who can ignore the horrific nature of our nation's actions against human beings are every bit as dangerous as our rogue President, because they are the ones who will allow such abominations to be done in their name, again and again.

  5. America more than any other nation is a country defined by its laws and its guaranteed rights and liberties. We have no common ethnicity nor common history that unites us, only our Constitution (what Bush recently derided as "just a damned piece of paper.")
    Seeking to undermine the rights enumerated in our Constitution is the most anti-American thing any person can do. Every president (& every soldier & every federal official) swears an oath "to preserve protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign & domestic."
    Bush not only FAILS to uphold our constitution, he goes out of his way to undermine it and show contempt for bedrock principles like "no cruel or unusual punishment". Holding someone for 5 yrs without charge or even access to a lawyer is itself "cruel & unusual" even if they were no torture!
    Condoning torture is un-Constitutional and therefore anti-American. If what it means to be an America is defined by our Constitution, then Bush is anti-American, literally.
    In my humble opinion, EVERYTIME Bush relaxes a constitutional right against "cruel & unusual punishment" or indefinite detention or right to an attorney or "surveilance without probable cause" or claims the right for OUR military to be exempted from global standards – recognized by virtually every nation in the world – THE TERRORISTS WIN!!!
    And, America LOSES!!!

  6. America more than any other nation is a country defined by its laws and its guaranteed rights and liberties. We have no common ethnicity nor common history that unites us, only our Constitution (what Bush recently derided as "just a damned piece of paper.")
    Seeking to undermine the rights enumerated in our Constitution is the most anti-American thing any person can do. Every president (& every soldier & every federal official) swears an oath "to preserve protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign & domestic."
    Bush not only FAILS to uphold our constitution, he goes out of his way to undermine it and show contempt for bedrock principles like "no cruel or unusual punishment". Holding someone for 5 yrs without charge or even access to a lawyer is itself "cruel & unusual" even if they were no torture!
    Condoning torture is un-Constitutional and therefore anti-American. If what it means to be an America is defined by our Constitution, then Bush is anti-American, literally.
    In my humble opinion, EVERYTIME Bush relaxes a constitutional right against "cruel & unusual punishment" or indefinite detention or right to an attorney or "surveilance without probable cause" or claims the right for OUR military to be exempted from global standards – recognized by virtually every nation in the world – THE TERRORISTS WIN!!!
    And, America LOSES!!!

  7. Even STALIN never demanded the LEGAL RIGHT to torture!
    (Pinochet, Duvalier, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Suharto, M'Butto, etc. none of them had a LEGAL RIGHT to be immune from prosecution for their torture either – as far as I know.)
    And, even ol' King George III couldn't legally lock up someone indefintely and refuse to say who they were holding, why they were being held, and refuse to let them see a lawyer or a judge, refuse to try them in court and refuse to even formally charge them with a crime!!!
    The MAGNA CARTA, signed in 1215 by King John (who was forced to sign), has ever since then guaranteed all British citizens and everyone held by any of the King's men ALL of those basic human rights!
    Bush is trying to undo an 800 yr old legal standard with his attempt to try detainees as "enemy comabttants" (a new term made up by Bush administration) in secret military tribunals.
    This legal standard, that even British subjects rebelling against their king in the American Revolution could count on British authorities upholding if they were arrested, is known as a WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS. All civilized nations have a similar law. It's latin for "we have the body". If someone is arrested and a WRIT is filed the government MUST certify WHO is being held and for WHAT reason.
    Five years later we STILL don't know the names of the Guantanamo detainees or WHY they are being held. Most have not been allowed to see lawyers and there have been no formal charges against them. Their families are allowed to know nothing about WHO is holding them, WHY, WHERE, and HOW they have been treated.
    Historians often note that Lincoln, during the Civil War DID suspend the WRITS OF HABEAS CORPUS too, but his suspension was legal – the US Constitution specifically ALLOWS for suspension of HABEAS CORPUS by the president in two (& only two) cases – cases of "insurrection or invasion". Has al Qaeda invaded our shores with their armies? Have they caused an armed rebellion by Americans against their government? No. Bush's suspension of HABEAS CORPUS for Gitmo detainees is illegal!
    Are we to believe that prisoners who are suspected al Qaida terrorists (if that is what the Gitmo detainees truly are, US gov't won't say) are so much more dangerous to America that they do not even deserve the basic human rights of fair treatment (& not cruel interrogation or conditions) that EVEN Nazi & Soviet spies were allowed??? Is the al qaeda threat really worse than those enemies???
    Bush has also violated the Geneva Conventions as well as multiple federal laws on torture! Bush is now seeking immunity from prosecution – a pardon, in effect – for his crimes and for the crimes of torturers who followed his illegal orders!
    Art. 6 of the US Constitution guarantees that ALL foreign treaties (when ratified by 2/3 of the Senate and signed by the President) automatically become the supreme "law of the land" in the USA.
    The Geneva Conventions were last ratified in 1954 – unanimously by the US Senate & signed by President Eisenhowewer! Ergo, they ARE fully enforceable US federal law! But, Bush treats them like they are merely international suggestions, rather than law!
    Bush now claims last week that the Geneva Conventions' language against prisoner detention that "degrades human dignity" is an impossibly vague standard! Even though the document goes on to specifically describe what in fact that means!
    Does anyone else believe that detention that "degrades human dignity" is unclear? Or is it just a peculiar perceptual deficit of torturers?
    Do none of the Bushies have ANY innate sense of human decency?
    The framers of our Constituion offer only one remedy for such lawlessness and flagrant violations of American civil liberties it's called: IMPEACHMENT !!!

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