DADT is gone

Cloture carries.

Cloture carries, 63-33. All the Democrats – plus Lieberman, minus Manchin – vote for decency and sanity. Brown, Collins, Kirk, Murkowski, Snowe, and Voinovich join them.

All the other Republicans – led by John McCain – vote for bigotry, making twice in one day.

Footnote Told you so.

Author: Mark Kleiman

Professor of Public Policy at the NYU Marron Institute for Urban Management and editor of the Journal of Drug Policy Analysis. Teaches about the methods of policy analysis about drug abuse control and crime control policy, working out the implications of two principles: that swift and certain sanctions don't have to be severe to be effective, and that well-designed threats usually don't have to be carried out. Books: Drugs and Drug Policy: What Everyone Needs to Know (with Jonathan Caulkins and Angela Hawken) When Brute Force Fails: How to Have Less Crime and Less Punishment (Princeton, 2009; named one of the "books of the year" by The Economist Against Excess: Drug Policy for Results (Basic, 1993) Marijuana: Costs of Abuse, Costs of Control (Greenwood, 1989) UCLA Homepage Curriculum Vitae Contact: Markarkleiman-at-gmail.com

13 thoughts on “DADT is gone”

  1. Any bets on how long it will take McCain to admit he was on the wrong side of history yet again?

    If you are a betting person here is the back story:

    Most glaringly, McCain as a young congressman in 1983 voted against a federal holiday for Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Most Republicans in the House voted for the holiday (89 voted for the holiday, 77 opposed), though all three Arizona House Republicans were opposed. Reps. Dick Cheney, R-Wyoming, and Newt Gingrich, R-Georgia, voted for the holiday. (Cheney had voted against it in 1978.) In December 1999 McCain told NBC's Tim Russert, "on the Martin Luther King issue, we all learn, OK? We all learn. I will admit to learning, and I hope that the people that I represent appreciate that, too. I voted in 1983 against the recognition of Martin Luther King….I regret that vote."

    It took Big Daddy FlipFlop quite some time to execute that acrobat…

    Now? The old man is more immorally agile…

    I give him 3 years to come about face…

    And nail the landing flat on his fanny.

  2. I think this is actually good news for the Reeps. Most voters wanted it gone, now it's done, it's not bothering people anymore, and the ones who hate that it happened will blame the Dems. The Reeps were up to, what, 31-33% backing from gays this past election, one reason to keep it from rising now gone. If the Dems would just get rid of DOMA tomorrow, the Reeps could recruit prosperous anti-tax gays even more effectively.

  3. I think this must be the final vote: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_l

    No Democrat voted against repeal of DADT.

    These Republican Senators voted for repeal:

    Brown (R-MA)

    Burr (R-NC)

    Collins (R-ME)

    Ensign (R-NV)

    Kirk (R-IL)

    Murkowski (R-AK)

    Snowe (R-ME)

    Voinovich (R-OH)

    These Senators did not vote:

    Bunning (R-KY)

    Gregg (R-NH)

    Hatch (R-UT)

    Manchin (D-WV

  4. Koreyel – I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I think McCain is basically all about lashing out at people who (as he sees it) denied him the Big Boy Chair. Behaving reasonably at times was the game with Bush, yelling at clouds is the game with Obama. He's just a miserable husk lashing out, and unfortunately people pretend to respect him, rather than laughing at the dried up bitter failure, which is all he deserves at this point. Any respect he once deserved is well past due.

    Dave – we get it. It is always good news for the Republicans. Thank you for doing your part.

    This is actually good news for Reid. Or rather, this is a promise he kept. It may not win him power now, but it wins him some serious karma.

  5. Yup. I'll happily give both President Obama and your predictive ability credit for this one.

    Now if the President would only order his AG to stop torturing a certain U.S. Army Pfc. to coerce from him dubious testimony…

  6. @Jamie

    Not everyone lives long enough to be wrong on two monumental Civil Right's legislation.

    Kudos to John McCain for having secured his legacy.

  7. I wonder if any of the people celebrating this are planning to enlist? Is the end zone celebration all about shoving this down the throats of people who object? Why call a policy of monosexual, heterosexual staffing "bigotry" (except to flatter yourself for moral superiority)? There's a reason many corporations have rules barring dating among staff, and why women aboard ship were considered unlucky. Human sexual attraction is famously disruptive (see Homer, __The Illiad__, Shakespeare, __Othello__, __Romeo and Juliette__). There are exactly four ways to disallow this possibility with a company of young adults: 100% heterosexual males, 100% heterosexual females, X hetero males and 1 strict lesbian, X herero females and 1 strict homosexual male. Who will walk point if the sergeant shields his bff from danger?

    I don't know if consideration is strong enough to justify discrimination, but it's an empirical issue, not something you can deduce from abstract principles.

  8. Brett says: "Well, good, but I still think this is not the sort of thing lame duck sessions should tackle."

    And I still think a conspiracy by one of two major parties to obstruct the nation's business with the goal being the transference of remaining wealth and property to the wealthiest, the removal of tax payments due from those who have money, and destruction of a duly elected President's agenda is anarchy, but hey, you know…

  9. Ok, so you don't understand the definition of "anarchy". Perhaps you need to consult with a dictionary.

  10. I think the "disruption" was the feud between the Capulets and the Montagues, not the love affair between the young people.

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