Comments on: 60 votes http://www.samefacts.com/2009/12/uncategorized/60-votes/ Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:27:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Barry http://www.samefacts.com/2009/12/uncategorized/60-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-35769 Barry Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:58:34 +0000 http://www.samefacts.com/?p=9650#comment-35769 Oh, no, he's very compos mentis; I wish that he weren't, because then he'd literally sling feces on the floor of the Senate and be removed from office (well, probably not; his staff would just run him as a puppet). Question - the NYT cover story mentioned 4 more fillibusterable votes before it goes to the House-Senate committee. Does anybody know anything about that? Oh, no, he’s very compos mentis; I wish that he weren’t, because then he’d literally sling feces on the floor of the Senate and be removed from office (well, probably not; his staff would just run him as a puppet).

Question – the NYT cover story mentioned 4 more fillibusterable votes before it goes to the House-Senate committee. Does anybody know anything about that?

]]> By: Sarah http://www.samefacts.com/2009/12/uncategorized/60-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-35764 Sarah Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:34:04 +0000 http://www.samefacts.com/?p=9650#comment-35764 I keep thinking that maybe ol' Joe is suffering from dementia and should be put out to pasture. But then, that would mean he's been non compos mentis for a long time. Nope, I guess he really is just greedy and unprincipled, but loyal to those who have bought him. I keep thinking that maybe ol’ Joe is suffering from dementia and should be put out to pasture. But then, that would mean he’s been non compos mentis for a long time. Nope, I guess he really is just greedy and unprincipled, but loyal to those who have bought him.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.samefacts.com/2009/12/uncategorized/60-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-35763 Sarah Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:34:04 +0000 http://www.samefacts.com/?p=9650#comment-35763 I keep thinking that maybe ol' Joe is suffering from dementia and should be put out to pasture. But then, that would mean he's been non compos mentis for a long time. Nope, I guess he really is just greedy and unprincipled, but loyal to those who have bought him. I keep thinking that maybe ol’ Joe is suffering from dementia and should be put out to pasture. But then, that would mean he’s been non compos mentis for a long time. Nope, I guess he really is just greedy and unprincipled, but loyal to those who have bought him.

]]> By: Brett http://www.samefacts.com/2009/12/uncategorized/60-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-35761 Brett Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:49:57 +0000 http://www.samefacts.com/?p=9650#comment-35761 Well, it's a step. Mind you, we're not out of the frying pan yet; the bill has to go through reconciliation with the House version, and then pass both chambers. You can bet that the Republicans will be screaming quite a bit throughout the whole process. My guess is that as it gets implemented (assuming it finally passes), we'll probably have a whole host of bills ironing out the issues that arise with it, until we get something hopefully almost universal and distinctively American. That's what happened with Social Security, and with both Medicare and Medicaid. One comfort for us liberals is that historically, health care programs here and abroad tend to build up a strong base of support, to the point where abolishing or completely gutting them is unthinkable. Witness what happened with Medicare here, or the universal health care system in Switzerland - the latter passed by a narrow vote just a few years back, but now gutting it is unthinkable. Well, it’s a step. Mind you, we’re not out of the frying pan yet; the bill has to go through reconciliation with the House version, and then pass both chambers. You can bet that the Republicans will be screaming quite a bit throughout the whole process.

My guess is that as it gets implemented (assuming it finally passes), we’ll probably have a whole host of bills ironing out the issues that arise with it, until we get something hopefully almost universal and distinctively American. That’s what happened with Social Security, and with both Medicare and Medicaid.

One comfort for us liberals is that historically, health care programs here and abroad tend to build up a strong base of support, to the point where abolishing or completely gutting them is unthinkable. Witness what happened with Medicare here, or the universal health care system in Switzerland – the latter passed by a narrow vote just a few years back, but now gutting it is unthinkable.

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