http://www.samefacts.com/2009/10/health-care/the-quaker-the-baptist-the-cow-and-cloture/ Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:54:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://www.samefacts.com/2009/10/health-care/the-quaker-the-baptist-the-cow-and-cloture/comment-page-1/#comment-34341 Ron E. Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:51:51 +0000 http://www.samefacts.com/?p=9187#comment-34341 You have it almost right. It should be, "After extracting concessions that make the bill suck even more than it already does, they will all vote, 'Yes.'" See also: the stimulus bill. You have it almost right. It should be, “After extracting concessions that make the bill suck even more than it already does, they will all vote, ‘Yes.’” See also: the stimulus bill.

]]> http://www.samefacts.com/2009/10/health-care/the-quaker-the-baptist-the-cow-and-cloture/comment-page-1/#comment-34317 Betsy Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:29:24 +0000 http://www.samefacts.com/?p=9187#comment-34317 Oh Dave, nice. Oh Dave, nice.

]]> http://www.samefacts.com/2009/10/health-care/the-quaker-the-baptist-the-cow-and-cloture/comment-page-1/#comment-34312 Andrew Sabl Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:20:45 +0000 http://www.samefacts.com/?p=9187#comment-34312 Dave, I suspect that Quakers wouldn't address judges using the customary form either. They probably said "thee," flouting the usual third-person formula. Demanding to testify on affirmation, as opposed to oath, was also a huge deal at the time. In Fox's day, some Quakers visited standard Christians' churches on Sunday wearing no clothes, to show their contempt for standard ceremonies. Even much later, in the eighteenth-century antislavery movement, Quakers were at least a strong plurality, but non-Quakers had to be in charge for organizing purposes, since Quakers wouldn't even sign letters with the usual salutations and closings ("your ob't servant" and all that). We forget just how radical Quakers were willing to be. Dave, I suspect that Quakers wouldn’t address judges using the customary form either. They probably said “thee,” flouting the usual third-person formula. Demanding to testify on affirmation, as opposed to oath, was also a huge deal at the time. In Fox’s day, some Quakers visited standard Christians’ churches on Sunday wearing no clothes, to show their contempt for standard ceremonies. Even much later, in the eighteenth-century antislavery movement, Quakers were at least a strong plurality, but non-Quakers had to be in charge for organizing purposes, since Quakers wouldn’t even sign letters with the usual salutations and closings (“your ob’t servant” and all that). We forget just how radical Quakers were willing to be.

]]> http://www.samefacts.com/2009/10/health-care/the-quaker-the-baptist-the-cow-and-cloture/comment-page-1/#comment-34304 chrismealy Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:14:37 +0000 http://www.samefacts.com/?p=9187#comment-34304 Mark, do you think Schumer would go for the nuclear option? I'd rather have Schumer with a 50 vote Senate than Reid with a 60. Mark, do you think Schumer would go for the nuclear option? I’d rather have Schumer with a 50 vote Senate than Reid with a 60.

]]> http://www.samefacts.com/2009/10/health-care/the-quaker-the-baptist-the-cow-and-cloture/comment-page-1/#comment-34303 Dave Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:08:33 +0000 http://www.samefacts.com/?p=9187#comment-34303 Bad example. You don't address a judge using the second person, but the third person singular (Your Honor). Bad example. You don’t address a judge using the second person, but the third person singular (Your Honor).

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