Comments on: Coincidence

By: Doug

Doug — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:06:44 +0000

1. Whoever.
2. No.
This has been another edition of simple etc.

By: Altoid

Altoid — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 22:09:28 +0000

I checked into the yellow-star story at the end of September when “well-meaning” friends sent it to my dad. It’s been making the rounds on the internets and gets a little shove now and then from people I’d describe as Likudnik concern trolls. They’re also passing around another bogosity that’s supposedly the musing of a Spanish reporter on how the Nazis created a void now filled by 20 million Arabs.
The original yellow-star story became notorious back in May when the Canadian prime minister repeated it as if it were true and caused an international incident. Steven Harper, the prime minister, is a bush clone who rules by pretty much the same philosophy, ignoring parliamentary practice and other things that make governments work. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he just cans Parliament and does everything through orders in council. Charles I all over again.
BTW, this story ran in the National Post. The National Post is the pet project of Conrad Black, who renounced his Canadian citizenship in order to get himself dubbed Lord Black of something-or-other (Cross Dressing, to the wags) and now wants his citizenship back. He’s got legal troubles because of certain financial irregularities in his business dealings.
He’s also pretty completely anti-semitic. I don’t know about you, but I’m not so inclined to take at face value stories decrying outrages on Jews when they come from anti-semites.

By: Dan Simon

Dan Simon — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:10:55 +0000

I don’t think Commentary is really representative of the AJC, let alone “central Jewish organizations”. I don’t know the exact story behind the AJC continuing to publish Commentary, but from my experience, the AJC, like other major Jewish organizations, is rigorously non-partisan, taking strong public positions only on issues of solid consensus among their membership. That’s politically smart–no reason to make enemies needlessly–and quite proper for an organization representing a religious/ethnic minority group. (My local AJC chapter sent out a mailing a few years ago urging Jews to oppose the state’s Connerly-sponsored Civil Rights Initiative. I avoided them for years afterwards–I understand that political organizations sometimes have to make messy tradeoffs among political expediency, group interest and moral principle, but if they were going to go out of their way to compromise all three simultaneously….)
Now, the consensus these organizations reach is probably more centrist than your 87%-Democrat figure, and the common stereotype suggests. But bear in mind that (1) Jews who are active in Jewish organizations are likely to be more centrist, on average, than completely secular, otherwise unaffiliated “ethnic” Jews, and (2) they are more likely to be strongly pro-Israel, which these days will give their positions a less left-wing flavor regardless of what other stances they take.
Apart from support for Israel, probably the strongest consensus position among American Jewish organizations is (for obvious reasons) support for separation of church and state–hardly a conservative position. They also tend to be generally pro-immigration and pro-minority-rights, again for obvious reasons, and again not exactly in solidarity with conservatives. But do you really think it’s a good idea for Jewish organizations to dilute their message and win enemies (both inside and outside the Jewish community) by speaking out on, say, environmental or taxation issues that have no inherent connection with Jewishness?

By: Mark Kleiman

Mark Kleiman — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:28:33 +0000

Yes, my fingers were wandering. The incorrect “Iraq”s have been changed to the correct “Iran”s.

By: dave

dave — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 00:01:07 +0000

Soros is trying to start one. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/773426.html

By: wcw

wcw — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:44:29 +0000

From your mouth to god’s ears — and I say that an atheist. I’m just tired of seeing my friends rediscover judaism (good for them, I guess) and suddenly become crackpot reactionaries (bad, I am pretty sure).
Raised a “Catholic” (cough, cough) I also officially apologize for the post-liberation theology backlash and for the present pontiff. If I were religious, I’d be doing what little I could to get rid of that crowd.

By: David

David — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:37:09 +0000

I think you mean to have written “Iran” instead of “Iraq” those first two instances. Note that this error involves the letters “n” and “q” and “nq” is pronounced “nuke” — more than coincidence?

By: SP

SP — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:14:46 +0000

Iraq, Iran, all the same, right?