http://www.samefacts.com/2006/05/uncategorized/the-haydenmzm-connection/ Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:22:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://www.samefacts.com/2006/05/uncategorized/the-haydenmzm-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-27467 Winston Smith Wed, 10 May 2006 11:49:44 +0000 http://samefacts.dreamhosters.com/2006/05/uncategorized/the-haydenmzm-connection/#comment-27467 Not sure that's "the real problem"...though it may be *a* problem... "polite" is an unusually vague term. It *can* suggest a kind of diffidence, and diffidence is not permissible in the face of a government like this. But no one is counseling *that*. I'd suggest that we need to use the most effective means to oppose these criminals. One must be willing to relentlessly speak truth to power, but without frothing at the mouth. Frothing at the mouth is largely counterproductive, and harmful to the long-term health of the body politic. Many conservatives may have elected to disregard that latter point, but we must not. Anysay, to urge civility is not to encourage diffidence. Not sure that’s “the real problem”…though it may be *a* problem…
“polite” is an unusually vague term. It *can* suggest a kind of diffidence, and diffidence is not permissible in the face of a government like this. But no one is counseling *that*.
I’d suggest that we need to use the most effective means to oppose these criminals. One must be willing to relentlessly speak truth to power, but without frothing at the mouth. Frothing at the mouth is largely counterproductive, and harmful to the long-term health of the body politic. Many conservatives may have elected to disregard that latter point, but we must not.
Anysay, to urge civility is not to encourage diffidence.

]]> http://www.samefacts.com/2006/05/uncategorized/the-haydenmzm-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-27466 Mark Tue, 09 May 2006 18:47:53 +0000 http://samefacts.dreamhosters.com/2006/05/uncategorized/the-haydenmzm-connection/#comment-27466 The real problem may be that Democrats will once again try to be polite. Cf. your Sen. Feinstein. The real problem may be that Democrats will once again try to be polite. Cf. your Sen. Feinstein.

]]> http://www.samefacts.com/2006/05/uncategorized/the-haydenmzm-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-27465 Winston Smith Tue, 09 May 2006 12:36:14 +0000 http://samefacts.dreamhosters.com/2006/05/uncategorized/the-haydenmzm-connection/#comment-27465 Well, the veggies etc. pale in comparison to disagreeing with Atrios. I learned long ago that Atrios is good and right in all ways, and that only unreconstructed Bush-lovers would even CONSIDER SUGGESTING that he is not right in every particular. Shame on you, Mark. What were you thinking? I can't believe I used to think you were one of the good guys. Well, the veggies etc. pale in comparison to disagreeing with Atrios. I learned long ago that Atrios is good and right in all ways, and that only unreconstructed Bush-lovers would even CONSIDER SUGGESTING that he is not right in every particular.
Shame on you, Mark. What were you thinking?
I can’t believe I used to think you were one of the good guys.

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